What is THINKING ? -JK

Comment: From my background. Thinking is the most natural process.

KRISHNAMURTI: I ask you, “Where do you live?” And your response is immediate. Isn’t it? Because where you live is very familiar to you, without a thought you reply quickly. Isn’t that so, sir? And I ask you a further complex question. There is a time lag between the reply and the challenge. In that interval one is thinking. The thinking is looking into the recesses of memory. Isn’t it?

I ask you, “What is the distance between here and Madras?” You say, “I know it, but let me look it up.” Then you say the distance is so many miles. So you have taken an interval of a minute; during that minute, the process of thinking was going on—which is looking into the memory and the memory replying. Isn’t that so, sir? Then if I ask you a still more complex question, the time interval is greater. And if I ask a question the answer to which you don’t know, you say, “I don’t know,” because you have not been able to discover the reply in your memory. However, you are waiting to check, you ask a specialist, or go back home and look into a book and tell. This is the process of your thinking, isn’t it?—waiting for an answer. And if we proceed a little further, if we ask a question of which you don’t know the answer at all, for which memory has no response, there is no waiting, there is no expectation. Then the mind says, “I really do not know, I cannot answer it.”

Now can the mind ever be in such a state when it says, “I really do not know”?—which is not a negation, which isn’t still saying, “I am waiting for an answer.” I ask you what truth is, what God is, what is, and you will reply according to your tradition. But if you push it further and if you deny the tradition because mere repetition is not discovery of God, or reality, or what you will, a mind that says “I don’t know” is entirely different from a mind which is merely searching for an answer. And isn’t it necessary that a mind should be in such a state when it says, “I really do not know”? Must it not be in that state to discover something, for something new to enter into it?

The Collected Works of J. Krishnamurti -Volume XII 1961: There Is No Thinker, Only Thought
Jiddu Krishnamurti

Mantra: “As Spirit, I …”

USE IT A-L-L THE TIME !!

Robin Starbuck That one cuts through the tedious “What realm are you in now?” “Oh golly I’m in the Third, now how do I get to the Fifth?
YOU’RE ALREADY IT !!
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I am everywhere now!
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I have every possible answer to every possible question: omniscience.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I don’t even have a material body.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I have no attachments whatsoever – not even wanting a solution to an ongoing (seeming) problem.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit I am in a state of joy all the time.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I see everyone correctly.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I CANNOT be sick.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I can never die.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I dismissed all bad memories.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, no Thing makes me happy or sad, confident or mad.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I live in my spiritual body.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, to the flesh I am but a beam of light.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I see amazing things.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I interact with all of Spirit now.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I thrive in the eternal now.
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Robin Starbuck As Spirit, I see right through every claim of discord and inharmony.
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Advaita clarity -RS

Rupert Spira
‘Pseudo Advaita’

Q: “I understand that the natural response of awakening is to see all as Grace, but if awakening has not yet become apparent and irritation does arise, and the best you can do is pseudo advaita, is that “wrong”?”

R: I have certainly not suggested anywhere that ‘pseudo advaita’ is ‘wrong.’ However, perhaps I should clarify what I mean by ‘pseudo advaita’:

One way of defining advaita is to say that it is the experiential understanding that there are no separate entities or objects to be found anywhere in experience.

If we think and feel that we are a separate entity and think at the same time that there are no separate entities in experience, we are contradicting ourselves.

The deeper of these two thoughts is the thought that we are a separate entity (because this thought has a strong feeling attached to it) and, for this reason, I suggest that the subsequent thought that there are no entities, is simply a belief, that is is not actually true of our experience. One cannot stand as impersonal, unlimited Awareness and, at the same time, as a separate, limited entity. To take this position is disingenuous and hence the term ‘pseudo advaita.’

To say ‘I accept my suffering as an expression of Grace’ is one form of this contradiction. The ‘I’ that is suffering and the ‘I’ that is accepting is made out of the belief that ‘some-things-are-Grace-and-others-are-not.’

Such a one is the very denial of the understanding that all things are Grace, that is, it is a denial of the non-dual understanding that everything is equally an expression of Awareness. Of course, ultimately that very denial is made out of nothing but Awareness, hence, as I have often said in our correspondence, there is no real ignorance.

However, once Awareness has taken the shape of the mind which says ‘I, Awareness, am this little entity and I am therefore not everything else,’ its reality as the substance of all things, seems to be veiled. This veiling is known to us as the experience of suffering.

The position of suffering and the position in which we understand that Awareness is the substance of all things are therefore mutually exclusive. In this case non-duality is simply a belief superimposed on our dualistic feelings.

Such a position is one in which we It is think that everything is equally an expression of Awareness, whilst feeling that in fact everything is not. And then, in order to accommodate this contradiction, we add another thought which says that I completely accept my suffering as an expression of Awareness, that is, I accept my rejection of the current situation. However, suffering is synonymous with searching. If we completely accept the current situation (our suffering) why are we simultaneously rejecting it and searching for a better one?

To accept suffering is, by definition, to have no motivation to change it, but suffering is, by definition, the desire to change the current situation. So which is true, the acceptance of the current situation or the desire to change it? They cannot both be true.

This contradiction is at the heart of ‘pseudo advaita.’ Perhaps the term ‘pseudo advaita’ has a judgemental connotation to it, which is certainly not intended. It is meant to be factual. Maybe ‘intellectual advaita’ would be a better term. It is meant to indicate a situation where we have appropriated the belief in advaita and adopted it as yet one more strategy to avoid honestly facing our suffering. It is a pretence. This belief downgrades advaita from a living experiential understanding to a religion. Of course, if we are happy with this superficial understanding of life, then that is fine – there is no judgement of that. (I am not not suggesting that this is so in your case.)

Q: “On the “path” to awakening we are taught that acceptance of everything that arises is key to living with more peace……”

R: You must ask those who say such things to explain their teaching – it is certainly not what is being suggested here.

If we are suffering, we are, by definition searching, trying to change the current situation. If ‘acceptance’ is our new strategy to avoid suffering, it is just a slightly more healthy alternative to going to the fridge or whatever….It is in fact nothing to do with acceptance. Accepting something in order to get rid of it is not acceptance. It is rejection pretending to be acceptance.

Q: “If the best you can do at the time is a mental process, shouldn’t you go ahead and do it?”

R: Yes, certainly, but believing that everything is an expression of Grace whilst feeling that it is not, is not a ‘mental process.’ It is the opposite of a ‘mental process.’ It is a fixed position.

Advaita is not a fixed position or a dogma, always meeting a variety of situations or questions with the same ‘Awareness is all, Awareness is all, Awareness is all’ answer. It is true that Awareness is all, but this understanding can be refracted into as many different forms as there are situations or questions. As soon as ‘Awareness is all’ becomes a belief, it is dead. It is, as such, the opposite of advaita.

If one is suffering, I suggest that she or he has the courage and the honesty to face their suffering without any attempt to get rid of it. Just to look at it and see the facts of the situation: one, our psychological suffering involves a rejection of the current situation and two, there is a presumed separate entity at the heart of this rejection. That is the first step of the ‘mental process.’

The second is to enquire into the nature of this apparent entity. After all, if our suffering revolves around it, any understanding of suffering must involve an understanding of this apparent entity. Please note, the suggestion here is to understand suffering, not to get rid of it.

As we look towards this apparent limited entity, to our surprise we do not find it. We just find a belief and a few bodily sensations appearing in and, ultimately, made out of our own intimate Knowing Presence or Awareness. At this point the ‘mental process’ comes to an end and we simply take our stand knowingly as that which we always already are.

If the belief or feeling of separation arises again, we gently resume our investigation and exploration until we find ourselves again knowingly established as Awareness. As time goes on there is less and less investigation and more and more abidance.

Q: “Isn’t irritation an expression of Grace? How could it not be?”

R: I think I have answered this now, but at the risk of being repetitive and for the sake of thoroughness, this is tantamount to saying, “Isn’t suffering an expression of Grace?” Whilst in theory and from the absolute point of view, it is, in practise and at a relative level, it is not. If we are feeling irritated we are standing as a person, not as the absolute.

If we truly feel that our suffering is a gift of Grace (not in retrospect but while it is actually taking place) then we would be happy with our suffering; we would be glad to be suffering. In which case our suffering would be an experience of happiness, and would not therefore be experienced as suffering.

So, again, suffering is, by definition, a rejection of the current situation. Can we legitimately and honestly say, “I dislike the current situation and am therefore suffering and also enjoy it as a gift of grace?” No, these two positions are mutually exclusive. We cannot be both happy and unhappy with the current situation. It is only possible to have one feeling at a time. In such a case we are feeling one thing and thinking another.

I would suggest that such a situation is intolerable for one who is deeply interested in the nature of reality. In time, either suffering or intelligence will compel the search for a resolution.

Don’t pit different paths against each other

I just can’t see any reason under the sun to pit one’s spiritual path against another’s and vehemently teach it.

Infinity certainly has enough infinititude to graciously allow multifarious paths! Millions of people are and have been enjoying great discovery, revelation and – dare I say – enlightenment from a well-honed progressive path or a no-compromise direct path.

Why not choose your path, knowing it’s helped millions and allow in your heart the fact that “the other” path has also helped millions? In the ginormous Heart of Love there’s gotta be a place for those who prove with their very lives that Spirit is All – just like you do.
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Is something wrong?

IS SOMETHING WRONG ?

It’s a lot easier –
a major shortcut – to say
“No, absolutely not!”
I’m better than okay.

Nip it in the bud
Proactively speaking
And BE the realm of
Eternal, sublime perfection
From the very get-go.

Don’t leave a hair or fingernail

  • a nagging, sinking feeling –
    back where you never were!
    Stand on the Absolute,
    complete, total Allness, Oneness, Nowness of Spirit, God.

Find out all you possibly can
about perfect unattachment.
What do “I don’t care” and
“I’m not here” really mean?

Tell us if you can

  • if you really know –
    where it is that
    you really are.

You’re pure Spirit, right?
Why are you lying on that bed?
Answer: I’m not.
Why are you in that city,
village, country?
Answer: I’m not.
Why are you …? I’m not.

What are you then?
I am Allness, fullness,
Spirit, Life, Love –
everywhere at once!

I am bounded by nothing at all.
I am without time or space.
I’m not what you think you see –
looking out there! I’m free!

I’m in China, Egypt too!
England and Istanbul.
T h i s m o m e n t everywhere
in Allness – just like you.
DrRobinStarbuck

Three seconds of procrastination

THREE SECONDS OF PROCRASTINATION

Let’s consider the term ‘procrastination’ and acknowledge that by definition of its nuances, it’s entirely negative. Let’s exercise our due diligence and root it out.

“I will meditate on this right now” is ALREADY TOO LATE ! “This” represents a lie. Three more seconds of this lie and you’ve got some major shoveling to do!

You’re an elephant. No, I’m not. You’re in Afghanistan. No, I’m not. You’re a scientist. No, I’m not. You’re sick. NO, I’M NOT !!

Misión acomplí! No “need” to meditate. BEing at one with Spirit is pure joy now. There’s nothing underhanded anymore: you’re not going to God to get something – you ARE everything real and spiritual.
DrRobinStarbuck

Ramana Maharshi by Robert Adams

A devotee of Ramana Maharshi, who had been with him about twenty-five years, had a son that died, and he was grief-stricken. So he begged to have an audience with Ramana. Now Ramana rests from twelve to two. He agreed to see his devotee. When the devotee entered the hall, Ramana was reclining on his couch with his eyes closed, and he started to cry and tell him all his troubles, how much he loved his son. And then he asked Ramana, “What is God?” Ramana didn’t answer. He kept still for about fifteen minutes. Then he opened his eyes and he said very softly, “What is, is God.”

What is, is God. It’s like when someone asks the question, “Is the world real?” The world, by itself, is an illusion, but God, as the world, is real. As we progress we find there never was a God, so there never was a world. But for the sake of talking, because God is, the universe is. Everything, from the lowliest microbe to the fullest galaxy, is God in expression. Everything is God. Every leaf, every piece of clay, every star, every planet has no basis for its existence, by itself. Because God is, everything else is.

That’s what Ramana meant when he answered, “What is, is God.” He was trying to explain to the devotee, “Your son dying, that is God. Your son living, that is God. There’s no real difference. Only in your mind.”

Robert Adams
Transcript 3
My Confession
16th August, 1990