Four fundamentals● NM

THE FOUR FUNDAMENTALS:●●●

“A foreign visitor, who could spend only three days in Bombay, attended both the morning and evening sessions, every day.

At the final session, he said that during the three days he had absorbed so much that he was not able to sort out the priorities, and did not know what to do first, and what could be postponed.

He earnestly requested Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj to review the fundamentals, so that he could retain them in his mind, in an orderly manner.

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj laughed, and asked him if there was any confusion in his mind about his being a male human being – about being the son of his parents, or about his profession!?

If not, then why should there be any confusion about his True Nature?

Anyway, said Maharaj, let us take up what you have asked for:

What you really want, is to reach an acceptable understanding of your self (which you have been conditioned to regard as a body-mind entity, with complete control over its actions), and your relationship with the world in which you live – you on the one hand, and the world on the other.

Now, what you think you are, is nothing but the ‘material essence’ of your father’s body, which was conceived in your mother’s womb, and which later grew spontaneously, into the shape of a baby, with bones, flesh, blood, etc.; Indeed, you were not even consulted about your ‘birth’!

A human form was created, which grew from a baby – to an infant, and at a certain time – perhaps in the second year of your life, you were told that you were born – that you have both a name, and a form.

Thereafter, you had the knowledge of your ‘Beingness’, and you began to consider yourself as a separate individual – an independent entity, apart from the rest of the world.

Now consider:
1.) Did your parents specially and deliberately create you?
2.) Did your parents know the moment when conception took place?
3.) Did you specifically – and deliberately, select a particular couple as your parents? … and,
4.) Did you choose to get born’?

From the answers to these questions, it would be clear that a form – in the shape of a human being, got created – almost accidentally (without any concurrence or selection on any one’s part), which you – subsequently, accepted as your self.

Therefore, ‘you’ – as such, do not exist, either as a ‘fact’, or as an ‘entity’!

This is the ■First Fundamental:
1.) A form got created, through a natural process.

Then, the question is; what are we; all of us?

●Each one of us – as a ‘phenomenon’, is merely an appearance in the Consciousness, of those who perceive us, and, therefore, what we ‘appear to be’ is a ‘phenomenon’ – temporal, finite, and perceptible to the senses; whereas ●’what we really are – what we have always been, and, what we shall always be – without ‘name and form’, is ‘The Noumenon’ – Timeless, Spaceless, and ‘Imperceptible Being’!

However convincingly you may think you have understood this basic fact, you will find it ●almost impossible to dis-associate yourself from the identification with your ‘name and form’ – as an ‘entity’.

●This can happen only when that – which you have been thinking of as a separate entity, has been totally annihilated!

This is the ■second fundamental; the power of Maya:
2.) What is ●merely a phenomenon – without any independent existence of its own, is considered to be ‘Real’, and efforts are made – by this phantom, to ‘become’ something;
… ‘A shadow chasing its substance’!

●Whereas – actually, you have all along been ‘The Substance’, and never the shadow in bondage, wanting Liberation.

How very amusing,
But then that is Maya!

Now the ■third fundamental:
3.) Would you have been able to conceive any aspect of the manifested world if there were no ‘space-time’?

●If phenomena were not extended into space, and given a ‘three-dimensional volume’, and if they were not measured in ‘duration’, you could not have ‘conceived’ – let alone ‘perceived’, anything of the apparent universe.

Please note; that ●all phenomena are mere appearances in space-time, conceived and perceived in onsciousness.

And ●even the very idea of ‘The Wholeness Of The Absolute’, can only be a concept in Consciousness!

●●●When Consciousness merges in The Absolute, who or what can there be to want to know anything, or to experience anything?!

And now, ‘The ■final Fundamental’:
4.) If what I have said so far is clearly understood, should it not be ●●●possible for you to apperceive your True State; The state before ‘you’ were ‘born’?

●●●Could you go back to that Primal State. before Consciousness spontaneously arose, and brought on ‘The Sense Of Presence’?

●This latter state of; ‘The Sense Of Presence’, is True so long as the body exists.

●When the life span of the body is over, this Conscious Presence, merges into the Original State, where there is No Consciousness of Being Present.

●No one is born – no one dies!

●There is merely the beginning, the duration, and the end of an event – objectified as a life-time, in ‘space-time’.

●As ‘phenomenon’, there is no entity that is bound, and as ‘noumenon’, there can be no entity that needs to be Liberated.

●This is what is to be apperceived:
The dream-world of phenomena, is something to be merely Witnessed.

The visitor bowed before Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, and said that he had received the highest knowledge in the fewest words.

●’Having learnt about my True Identity, I have nothing else to learn now.’ he added.

“Nisargadatta Maharaj ~
(Sri Ramana Maharshi Teachings)

Conditioned mind -JK

Now, the question is this. I know that my mind is conditioned; and how am I to free my mind from conditioning when the entity that tries to free it is also conditioned? Do you understand the issue? When a conditioned mind realizes that it is conditioned and wishes to uncondition itself, that very wish is also conditioned; so what is the mind to do?

Want to help? -NM

“When you are free of the world, you can do something about it. As long as you are a prisoner of it, you are helpless to change it. On the contrary, whatever you do will aggravate the situation.”

”‘”The only help worth giving is freeing from the need for further help. Repeated help is no help at all. Do not talk of helping another, unless you can put him beyond all need of help.”

-Nisargadatta

Knowing well what it is to die to every moment, while still in the body, one is on intimate terms with Death: physical survival has lost its compelling force and importance. One truly goes through life with a lighter tread.

~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

End of all things -rjs

The end of all things
I have no existence
I have no memory
I’ve never been anywhere
I’m not going anywhere.

I don’t like anything and
I don’t dislike anything
I feel nothing
I see, hear, smell, taste, touch
Nothing at all.

I’m not happy nor sad
Anxious nor glad
I don’t have a thing
I don’t remember ever
Having had anything.

If you ask me to
I’ll sup with you anytime
For I am neither veiled
Nor exposed to vicissitudes
As nary a thing can be.

DrRobinStarbuck

Why I rjs feel my background is good -JK

I am using the word learn in quite a different sense, not as a process of acquiring knowledge. Living with a thing and acquiring knowledge about it are two different states. To learn about something, you must live with it, and if you already have knowledge about it, you cannot live with it because then you are only living with your own knowledge. To find out for ourselves about the extraordinarily complex problem of time and death, one must learn, and therefore live with it; and this is completely impeded if we approach it with the accumulation of what we already know, with knowledge. I will go into it a little, and perhaps we shall be able to communicate with each other.

We were talking the other day about desire. We went into it fairly sufficiently, but I think we missed something—that desire is intimately connected with will. Will implies, surely, not only desire but also choice. Where there is choice, there is will, and therefore the problem of time arises.

Please, if I may suggest it, listen to the whole thing right to the end. Do not stick at parts of it with which you agree or disagree, but look at the totality of it, the whole content of it. It is a matter of perception, of seeing something directly, and when you see something very directly then you neither agree or disagree—it is so.

So, as I was saying, through conflict, outward and inward, we develop will. And will is a form of resistance, obviously, whether it is the will to achieve or the will to be, the urge to deny or the determination to sustain something. Will is the many threads of desire, and with that we live. And when we inquire into time, we require an insight which is quite different from the will to understand. I do not know if this is clear, but I will go along with it, and perhaps you will see it. This is an informal talk, not a prepared talk; it is more or less an inquiring into oneself, and to go into it publicly is one thing, and to go into it all by oneself is quite another. What we are trying to do is to communicate it to each other—this journey into time. The inquiry implies time also, and the putting of words together implies time, and all communication is based on time. And perhaps there is a comprehension of what is time and what is timelessness, not through words, not through verbal or intellectual communication, but perhaps by sidestepping the whole process. But unfortunately we must first inquire verbally, intellectually, into time. And this inquiry is the sense of learning about it—which is not remembering what you have read, or merely hearing the words I am saying, but the perception of it, seeing it directly for yourself. And I think that may have immense value.

The Collected Works of

J. Krishnamurti -Volume XII 1961

There Is No Thinker, Only Thought
Jiddu Krishnamurti

It’s too late for you to back out -Adya

Adyashanti
Excerpted from: A talk in Mountain View, California
‘Enlightenment is effortless’

When you realize the truth, then you know that this truth is not fooling around. This truth wants you, and it wants your life, and it’s going to devour you and eat you up for dinner. The truth is not playing games. I’ve had more than one person say, “Adya, how do I turn this off? How do I back out of this deal? This isn’t what I signed up for.” And the only answer is, “Sorry, it’s too late, you can’t back out. You can walk away from me and from all teachers, and from spirituality altogether. You can go to the end of the earth and play some other game, but it’s too late. You can’t unrealize what you realize.” It’s a game until it’s not, but by the time you realize that it’s not a game, you can’t back out.

By and large, people want liberation, freedom, bliss, peace, love, and total release from fear. They want all the accoutrements of enlightenment without having to pay the price. They don’t want to pay the price of a total love affair, a total commitment. I’m not speaking of anything that is separate or different from your life. This doesn’t have anything to do with the monastery or leaving your day-to-day existence. The truth is here in every single moment of your life. That’s the truth. It’s not separate from your life. You can’t run away from yourself and your life in order to awaken to reality. Your life is your path to awakening. Stop and open your eyes: You were free from the very beginning.

Please understand that it’s not you that wakes up; it’s reality that wakes up, the truth wakes up. You are not enlightened; enlightenment is enlightened. Ultimately this realization doesn’t have anything to do with individuals, since there aren’t any separate individuals. That is the whole illusion, that there is something separate from the ultimate reality. When it’s clear that there’s nothing going on other than the ultimate reality, it’s a done deal — enlightenment is effortless.

Adyashanti

It’s too late for you to back out now. You can’t unrealize something that you have realized.