Category Archives: BEYOND NON-DUALITY
broken through
Sometimes when we’ve looked up to a teacher or two for a loooong time it’s scary to even think we may have broken through (gone beyond) them in some area. We enter a lonely abyss and find – WOW!! – a whole new freedom! Beyond amazing.
Sweet nothingness!
Thoughts?
How to talk đ€, writeâ or address an audience đ€Ł
WHY, OH WHY, can’t mankind (1) look for the [a] premise and [b] definition of terms oftentimes but not always clearly provided by the speaker (2) enter into the ensuing discussion adhering strictly to the “givens” and (3) draw conclusions based strictly on the fundamentals of said discussion? Pulling in a brand new element is tantamount to expecting your interlocutor to join you in your aphoristic juxtaposition of apples and oranges.
The Self: ever-present?
Some time ago, a Bengali youth asked Bhagavan,
âYou say that the Self is present at all times and at all places. Where exactly is that âIâ?â
Bhagavan replied with a smile,
âWhen I say you are present at all times and at all places and you ask where is that âIâ, it is something like asking, when you are in Tiruvannamalai, âWhere is Tiruvannamalai?â When you are everywhere, where are you to search?
The real delusion is the feeling that you are the body. When you get rid of that delusion, what remains is your Self. You should search for a thing which is not with you but where is the need to search for a thing which is always with you?
All sadhanas are for getting rid of the delusion that you are the body.
The knowledge that âI amâ is always there:
call it Atma, or Paramatma or whatever you like. One should get rid of the idea that âI am the bodyâ. There is no need to search for that âIâ that is the self.
That Self is all-pervading.â
As an illustration of this, I give hereunder the words of Bhagavan in âUnnadhi Nalupadhiâ:
Without the Self
where is time and where is space?
If we are the body,
we have to be bound by time and space.
Are we the body?
We are one and identical now, then and
always; here, there and everywhere.
So, we are existent,
without time and space.â
- Reality in Forty Verses, verse 16
_______Letters from Sri Ramanasramam.
Excerpt from Chapter (73)
THE âIâ IS THE MIND ITSELF
Only thing that’s permanent is change!
You dream you’re awake
IT: starting and staying with the answer
A CRITICAL QUESTION
When sharing the “What is being shared here is⊔, the “No me, no you, no person⊔, the “Open Secret and beyond⊔, the “Beyond non-duality⊔, the “Start with the Answer and stay there”(rjs) [referring to the same thing in all of the above], ‘I’ am keenly aware of why it is counter-intuitive to give ‘IT’ a label. But don’t we – or do we – oh golly I dunno! don’t we need to have some consistent way of identifying ‘IT’ in the literature?
In this treatment, I’m referring to the issue by the very temporary term IT. That’s not helpful as a solution for speakers and writers: I guess I just want it to be abundantly clear that the purity and absolute uniqueness of IT is fully appreciated and supported by “me”.
Why do “I” care so much about this labeling thing? Because I care so deeply and passionately about IT that I shudder inside and out when I see IT so unfairly misrepresented.
IT is not out there just to give other disciplines a rolling-the-eyes headache. IT isn’t a .001-second path: IT is always and already THERE (starting- and- staying- with- the- answer).
Block Universe (prakriti) in Dzogchen
Try thisâŠ
An Infinite Field of Dependent Histories
What this means is: an apple (or any phenomena) is itself the sum total of its entire prior history. Further, any existing or contributing aspect of the appleâs history, such as the apple seed, the earth it grew in, the necessary nutrients, the water, the sunlight etc. etc. , are required, as well as also each of those contributing aspects or factors, will have their own prior histories as well.
This understanding reveals a vision which spans the entire universe as being an infinitely vast network of interdependent histories.
No âthingâ, subjectively mental or objectively âmaterialâ can be isolated as though existing apart from its current total field of supporting dependencies and its prior developmental history of previously existing supporting and influencing relationships.
To think otherwise is itself the definition of âmagical thinkingâ.
Now imagine that this âtotal field of interdependenciesâ includes the past, present and future as a single field or as a unified network of interconnected relationships or hierarchies. This further defines Einsteinâs concept of an all inclusive âblock universeâ comprised of past, present and future as a fixed and unchanging 4D hologram.
So it doesnât matter which or whatever philosophical or metaphysical or religious framework one wishes to superimpose upon this fixed field of Reality, it wonât alter whatâs primordially there.
The future is never other than the extension of its history extended forward in time. An apple seed will never develop into a lemon. A lemonâs history will have to have something other than an apple seed as itâs origin. And so it is with ALL mental and material phenomena including the mind.
But the above description doesnât include the permanent (timeless) Knowing Presence of Awareness. Knowing Awareness has no history, has no past, present or future. Itâs outside of time, mind, thought, identity, self, form and event, yet is all pervading without dimension, like a borderless mirror in which reflections simply appear and are known. But better than the mirror analogy is one where Awareness is the unchanging empty space which hosts the Universal Hologram.
So whatever âspinâ you want to put upon the nature and characteristics of the âreflectionsâ as the appearing thoughts, mind, perceptions, identities, forms, bodies, objects, and energies; no utterly simple, elegant, complex or fanciful mental construct or paradigm will ever influence or impact the Knowing Awareness in which they harmlessly appear.
In Samkhya the interdependent âfieldâ of past, present and future phenomena; mental and material, is called âprakritiâ.
The empty Knowing Awareness is called Purusha or Jña in Samkhya.
Does Prakriti (the block universe) arise as the creative potential or expression of Knowing Awareness itself or are they always in a dualistic relationship?
Seeing how both pervade the other completely, to speak of âtwoâ is incoherent. To see changing reflections as being âidenticalâ to the unchanging mirror in which they appear, is equally incoherent.
It is only the historical or evolved form of prakriti known as the intellect (buddhi) which has concerns regarding duality or non-duality as being relevant philosophical positions.
The main task in Dzogchen is to differentiate Awareness from mind, thought, and the conceptualizing intellect. The egoic self identity is one of mindâs products. It is only the mind and intellect which âseemâ to obscure rigpa.
Mind, thought and intellect are dependent prakriti, Awareness is neither prakriti nor is dependent.
That which is aware OF thoughts, images, perceptions, memories, logic, intellect, self and mind IS rigpa Awareness.
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posted by Jackson Peterson
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