Category Archives: Traditional theology denounced

Dr. Laura Schleisinger [hilarious]

Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. … I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them. Leviticus 25: 44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians? I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual “uncleanliness”—Lev. 15: 19–24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord—Lev. 1: 9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35: 2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11: 10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of abomination? Lev. 21: 20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/ 20, or is there some wiggle-room here? Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19: 27. How should they die? I know from Lev. 11: 6–8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19: 19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/ polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev. 24: 10–16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20: 14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging. Your devoted disciple and adoring fan. AJC
P.S. (It would be a damn shame if we couldn’t own a Canadian.)
[Dr. Laura Schleisinger had her own radio talk show]

Paul

……….…… P .. A .. U .. L …………….
RStarbuck, November 30, 2012
…..What an amazing human being! Brought up under the Old Covenant – the Mosaic Law – he pursued what he felt needed to be done, the extermination of the enemy, i.e., Christians. Can any of us imagine how he felt upon meeting Jesus in person – years after the Lord’s resurrection from the grave? If it had been me, I don’t know but I think I might have fainted dead away! A lot of good I would have been, right? Dead as a doornail! But I digress.
…..Jesus asked Paul why he was persecuting Him. You see, persecuting Christ’s followers was tantamount to persecuting Him. Paul suddenly found himself completely blind and needed to be guided back into the town where he miraculously got his sight back. Here’s where this story begins:
…..Paul was so profoundly smitten by his encounter with the Lord that it sustained him through unrelenting attacks on his person. Everywhere he went, Paul and his accomplices were severely beaten and/or stoned to within an inch of their lives and then imprisoned – all as a deterrent to their spreading Christianity.
…..What is most astonishing is the sheer joy Paul found in doing the Lord’s bidding without question. If Jesus had said “Jump!”, Paul would have said “How high?” He did everything at a level of ebullience that must have caused onlookers to conclude that he was insane. He was insanely in love with his Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus. Oh, how I long to have that degree of trust. Nothing else mattered to Paul: he was so humbled by being chosen to carry out his purpose in God’s plan.
…..The trials and tribulations that Paul faced daily were but “a light affliction” to him. Just one of the abuses he endured would have been a major Deal Breaker for me, but Paul goes around singing hymns and praising God.
…..This brings me to the real part of this story that I was hoping to impress you with: I’m really reluctant to tell you what it is because you are Bound To misconstrue it and miss a hugely important fact of Christianity: I ‘GET’ Paul. There, I said it. I get him. Flogged, beaten, stoned were of no event to him. He didn’t even have to pray that the stones might be softer in the next town that he was going to. After all, Stephen, the very first martyr, had had the distinct honor of seeing Jesus standing in front of him as he was being stoned to death. Paul would have changed places with Stephen in a heartbeat to die and be with God, but was quite content to stick with his divine assignment. And now we all have the Apostle Paul to thank for the better part of the New Testament.

If I should ask You
To please come to me…
Come to my mind…
And my heart…
You’d be patient, right?
I should know better.
I should have known
You’re always within me –
Closer than my breathing.
But You’d be patient, right?
ANSWER: You mustn’t flip on Me.
We need to help others
To come fully into the light.
They’re always beseeching Me
To do what I’ve already done,
So, when they “invite” Me like that …
Well, it’s pretty good …,
So I smile.

Remembering hell

REMEMBERING HELL !!

Can you remember
When you first heard
About HELL ?
You believed it, right?
I mean, you were supposed to,
Right?
And you complied, didn’t you?
And lived with all that fear mongering
For years, Right?
Can you trace the effect
That awful mis-guided belief
Had on your psyche?
(Looking back, I was lucky:
I only bought into that conspiracy
For a couple of years.)
Can you remember when
You were set free
As you were finally able to clearly see
That HELL is but an invention
Of power-hungry men
In dire need of
The consciousness of
The OMNIPOTENCE,
OMNISCIENCE and
OMNI-PRESENCE of God?

Set aside everything you learned second-hand. Start over!

BALANCE
Recently before I got my waterline run from the road I had to transport water to my property for the camper, plants, animals and construction needs.
I bought a 550 gallon water tank and sat in on my 16′ trailer. I filled it up at the concrete plant and headed home.
The 20 minute trip took over an hour! The trailer fish-tailed so badly I almost lost control of the truck! I stopped by a gas station and the gentleman at the next pump (a local I’m sure is on farmersonly.com) offered his advice.
“<<>> I betcher havin’ trouble pullin’ hit, aintchu? <<>> yometelluwhy?” I nodded.
“Hit’s too fer back! <<>> Scooter up towards the front. Setter right cheer over the axles. She’s gotta be balanced iffn ye wanna puller more ‘an 5 miles an air.” <<>>
Be shore an keeper on the hitch til she’s empty! <<>> iffn ye don’t, that there tongue’ll go straight up in the air like seesawing with a fat boy!<<>>” ( for those of you who may be interested in how he learned this lesson, he grew up with an overweight cuzzin his mother made him play with. His Daddy built them a seesaw and gave it to them one year for Christmas. They were very poor and it was the only present they got that year. He didn’t have any friends but his cousin would come over to play and every time they got on the Seesaw he just sat there up in the air looking down at his cousin who was sitting on the ground. For those of you who are wondering how the cousin is doing now, when he got to be a teenager he fell in love with a skinny girl and it Inspired him to lose weight. He worked out really hard and lost 150 pounds without an operation or going on the TV shows about losing weight. Everyone was so proud of him in the whole family. They had a beautiful wedding and as soon as she said “I DO” he went back to eating. He is now Fat again and everyone is thankful that they do not have a SEE-SAW! LOL LOL)
I had already figured out I had it positioned too close to the back. I was thankful he told me about the see-saw!
BALANCE
Webster says Balance is the state of having your weight spread equally so that you do not fall. : the ability to move or to remain in a position without losing control or falling. : a state in which different things occur in equal or proper amounts or have an equal or proper amount of importance.
I have spent the last several years bringing some Balance into my life. I was WAY out of balance in my thinking in so many ways.
The main problem was that I had never learned to question, research, listen to my heart and draw my own conclusions. I was a puppet who believed everything I was told by preachers, friends in my circle of people who were all like me and radio talk show hosts. I had very few original opinions.
I tripped, fell and landed facedown in pig-sh#@ some years ago and was so surprised to see those I thought to be friends and family respond to me with the “left-foot of fellowship.”
My TRUTH set me FREE from most of my world.
Alone, I began to question EVERYTHING!
I have drawn MANY conclusions that are very different from the way I used to believe.
BALANCE
That is a real key to safety and progress in hauling heavy loads. We need to think more about Balance in our lives beginning in the center of our soul.
I have learned to question things I used to believe.
I have made a decision not to believe anything I’m told, little that I read and half of what I see! Lol
All information must be filtered by inspiration.
My heart knows the truth and I’m learning to let my heart lead me.
Every human has the ability to Center themselves.
YOU can spend time in thought, prayer and meditation and draw honest, truthful conclusions.
YOU can lay to rest untruths that have you unbalanced.
YOU can start TODAY and bring peace and plenty to your world.
Get in touch with reality, spirit, truth and honesty that is found in the process of centering.
Everything is not black and white. (That idea originates from the knowledge of the tree of good and evil.) I have found more truth and peace in the gray!
Don’t compromise what you believe. QUESTION what you believe! Set aside everything you learned second-hand. Start over!
The TRUTH is a TREASURE you discover, WITHIN!
Robert Rutherford

Thou shalt not kill, unless . . .

A friend of mine told me today that their entire life was influenced by the Bible and that it was the clearest most concise book ever written. As an example they quoted Moses and said “Thou shalt not kill. That is plain and simple. How hard is it for people to not get that??”
Sometimes….. I am a smart alec.
My answer went something like this:
Yes! Don’t kill! Of course there are exceptions clearly laid out in the Bible!
It’s ok to kill IF you are dealing with someone who does not listen to the priests Deuteronomy 17:12.
It is ok to kill witches Exodus 22:17.
And of course you can kill gay people Leviticus 21 verse 3
Don’t forget about fortune tellers! Kill them! Leviticus 20:27
Exodus 21:15 is very clear that we should kill anyone who hits their father.
Leviticus 21 verse 9 says to kill anyone who curses their parents.
Adultery? Leviticus 20 verse 10 says kill them! Leviticus 21:9 says to kill the fornicators. Exodus 22:19 says to kill those who follow other religions. Wow! Sounds like ISIS!!!
Second chronicles 15:12, 13 says to kill non-believers.
Zechariah 13: 3 says to kill false prophets.
In Deuteronomy 13 we find out that it’s okay to kill an entire town if there’s one unbeliever in the town!?!
Deuteronomy 22 tells us to kill Brides who do not bleed on the sheets on their honeymoon. Exodus 31 tells us we can kill people who work on the Sabbath!
Isaiah 14 tells us that we can kill the children of sinners. Wow!
The Bible is really clear about that one!
THE BIBLE! An inspirational book that must be rightly divided and applied only by the spirit, within. It is the word of men….about their view of the God of the Jewish religion.
Robert Rutherford

Take a moment to consider that God is everything. Not a being on the outside, but the spirit in everyone, across all forms and faces. God dwells in you, whether you know it to be so or not. This is not to assert that you are a house for God, and you invite ‘him’ in to visit, it is that you are God in your spirit, in your imagination. Just like everyone and everything else. Every person on Earth is God too, whether they agree to this or not. The entire world is God, although awakening to it is to be truly alive. When Jesus said he is God’s son, he meant he is of God, but this statement is not limited to Jesus, for to follow the analogy further, we are all God’s sons and daughters, no better or worse than one another are.
How To Read The Bible
As taught by Neville Goddard
A Guide to the Human Imagination Understanding Scripture
Neville Goddard & Levi Elton

I posted on Sunday evening about the problems that arise when we interpret imagery from the book of the Revelation too hyper-literally. What it boiled down to was that one is then forced, in order to be consistent, to interpret all of the book’s wild, apocalyptic imagery literally as well, leaving us with Godzilla-like creatures living in earth’s oceans, space-dragons, and biblical “villains” attending first century congregations, centuries after their deaths.

Another issue with interpreting the lake of fire imagery as we do, is what it does to the Protestant doctrine of salvation. Were I to ask you, as a Protestant, “who goes to the lake of fire?”, how would you answer? It’s likely you’d, if you’ve got your doctrine sorted correctly, answer with something simple like “unbelievers.” And at least, according to the Revelation text, you’d be right. So, were you asked directly by someone who, let’s say, was involved in sexual activity that you deemed unsavory and immoral, “Will I go to hell because of said activity?”, again, if your doctrinal ducks were in a row, you’d likely answer with, “No, you’d go to hell because you’re an unbeliever and rejected Christ, but not because of any particular action.”

Here, though, is where the text in question would begin disagreeing with you. Let’s take a look:

8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
-Revelation 21:8, NIV

Sure, “unbelieving” is on that list, but only after “cowardly,” and is then followed by other actions, like sexual immorality and lying. The issue here is that if rejection of Christ and unbelief is *what sends someone to hell, why all the behaviors? Why not leave it at unbelief? It seems like all these extras only add to the confusion. Also, in light of this, the Protestant doctrine of salvation not being by works, etc., stops…working, because here it is specifically *works and actions that are sending people to this place.

Now, sure, we could simply say that these are metaphors-behaviors typifying the villainous force in the book, and doesn’t mean specifically that anyone who is a cowardly , occasional truth-stretcher, will go to hell. But at that point, why not understand the lake of fire itself to be a metaphor? If you’re willing to metaphor-ize one part of the book, why not other parts?

Just some thoughts for this lovely, Tuesday morning.

Questionable theology

What in the $%^&^% is their problem? So, a person messes up badly, obviously misinformed or whatever. Finally like all of us, they die. And the religionistas want them – not to suffer for a million years – but to suffer FOREVER. What in the blazes is up with that???
Rjs

Any building whose structural integrity depends on everything remaining exactly as it’s always been, is not truly a structure, but merely an illusion. If the changing of a light switch plate here and there, or maintenance on a bathroom will cause the entire building to collapse, there is no actual structure to the building, it is merely illusory.

In the same way, a Christianity, or a belief system, whose structural integrity depends on beliefs always remaining exactly the same, without movement, growth, or development, is not a belief system, and certainly not Christianity, but merely an illusion. If one cannot question doctrines like biblical inerrancy, or eternal conscious torment, or even something as banal as the origins of “Satan,” without the entire structure collapsing, you have no structure.

To put it simply, all structures, all *true* structures, that is, ought to be able to handle deconstruction, without it resulting in a full collapse. Sadly, today’s brand of Christianity is not deconstructable, and the moving or changing of a single belief truly will result in the entire system’s fall. This is why we must allow certain old structures to fall, without attempting to reform them. Then, after their fall, we can sift through the rubble, and reclaim some of the artifacts the former, illusory structure had hijacked, but attempting to reform such structures can only result in you being buried by its fall.

It’s time to find a new and better way, and to allow the old to collapse.
Jeff Turner

INCLUSIONISM

… [S]ince I stopped preaching “accept Christ” and started several years ago to “accept your acceptance” I have seen a marked difference in the quality of disciple. I would not go back to the way I did it for 35 years for anything. People now actually want to share their faith
Don Keathley