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• * * Kundalini Sakti – Chinmaya Deha * * *

Yesterday morning an Andhra youth came here with his wife.
It seems he has come here after visiting the whole of the Himalayan region.

In the afternoon at 3 o’clock he
approached Bhagavan and said,
“Swami, is the manifestation of Kundalini Sakti
(a form of yogic power) possible only for those
who follow the yogic path of acquiring sakti (power) or
is it possible also for those
who follow the path of devotion (bhakti) or love (prem)?”

Bhagavan Sri Ramana :
“Who does not have Kundalini Sakti?
When the real nature of that Sakti is known,
it is called Akhandakara Vritti (Plenary consciousness) or
Aham Sphurana (effulgence of ‘I’, ‘I’).
Kundalini Sakti is there for all people
whatever path they follow.
It is only a difference in name.”

Questioner: “It is said that that sakti manifests itself in
five phases, ten phases, hundred phases and a thousand
phases. Which is true – five or ten or a hundred or a
thousand?”

Bhagavan Sri Ramana :
“Sakti has only one phase.
If it is said to manifest itself in several phases,
it is only a way of speaking.
The Sakti is only one.”

Questioner: “To realise the Self, some say you must
concentrate your mind on the anahatam (the 4th of the mystical
chakras [plexuses] of the body); some say on the sahasraram (a
mystical plexus in the brain with a thousand petals); and some
say on the muladharam (a mystical plexus about the organs of
generation). Which is the most important?”

Bhagavan Sri Ramana :
“All are important.
Self (Atman) is everywhere in the body.
Some say you should see it in the muladharam;
some say in the anahatam and
some say in the sahasraram.
It is the same whichever it is.
But, for all of them, the place of birth
and of dissolution is anahatam only.”

Questioner: “Can a Jnani help not only those who follow
his path but also others who follow other paths?”

Bhagavan Sri Ramana :
“Undoubtedly.
He can help people whatever
path they choose to follow.
It is something like this.
Suppose there is a hill.
There will be very many paths to climb it.
If he were to ask people to climb by the way he came,
some may like it and some may not.
If people who do not like it are asked to climb by that path,
and by that path only,
they will not be able to come up.
Hence a Jnani helps people following
any particular path whatever it may be.
People who are midway may not know
about the merits and demerits of other paths,
but one who has climbed the summit and sits
there observing others coming up is able to see all the paths.
He will therefore be able to tell people
who are coming up to move a little to this side or
that or to avoid a pitfall.
The goal is the same for all, you see.”

The young man was not satisfied with the replies given
by Bhagavan and again began asking questions about Kundalini Sakti and how it arises.
Bhagavan appeared unconcerned about those questions
but when they were asked repeatedly, said,

“What do I know about those paths?
Please ask those who know them well.”

Giving up the topic,the young man took up the topic of spiritual bodies (chinmaya dehas) by saying,
“My Guru gave a darshan in chinmaya rupam
(form) on such and such a day, spoke to me of this and that,”
and started speaking about the miracles performed by his
deceased Guru.

Bhagavan did not speak but kept quiet for some time.
At last the young man said,
“Is it a fact that Lord Krishna is still with his chinmaya deha (spiritual body)?”

Bhagavan Sri Ramana replied with patience:
“Does chinmaya deha mean the human body?
Chinmaya means Chit-prakasa, i.e. luster of the spirit.
That light is always existent:

“ Arjuna, I am the Self seated in the heart of all beings.
I am the beginning and middle and
also the end of all beings.
Gita, X: 20

“Does that mean that
He is in the hearts of all beings with this material body?
It means He is in the hearts of all beings in the shape Aham Sphurana (effulgence of ‘I’, ‘I’).
That effulgence of the Self is known as Chit-prakasa or Chinmaya.”

Questioner: “Is the same thing said of other Mahapurushas
(great personages) or is it that Lord Krishna’s body becomes
Chinmayam and remains like that?”

Bhagavan Sri Ramana :
“Oh ! You think that that body becomes
Chinmayam and sits somewhere.
The whole world is Chinmayam.
That being so is it that one body alone has become Chinmayam?
Visions (sakshatkaras) are also like this.
People say that they descend from somewhere with a body.
That which is omnipresent you leave or ignore and
talk of karam and sakshatkaram.”

~ Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, 18th January, 1949

Thanks Sri Ramana Maharshi Teachings. श्री रमण महर्षि के उपदेश

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