WHY, OH WHY, can’t mankind (1) look for the [a] premise and [b] definition of terms oftentimes but not always clearly provided by the speaker (2) enter into the ensuing discussion adhering strictly to the “givens” and (3) draw conclusions based strictly on the fundamentals of said discussion? Pulling in a brand new element is tantamount to expecting your interlocutor to join you in your aphoristic juxtaposition of apples and oranges.

Some time ago, a Bengali youth asked Bhagavan,
“You say that the Self is present at all times and at all places. Where exactly is that ‘I’?”

Bhagavan replied with a smile,
“When I say you are present at all times and at all places and you ask where is that ‘I’, it is something like asking, when you are in Tiruvannamalai, ‘Where is Tiruvannamalai?’ When you are everywhere, where are you to search?
The real delusion is the feeling that you are the body. When you get rid of that delusion, what remains is your Self. You should search for a thing which is not with you but where is the need to search for a thing which is always with you?
All sadhanas are for getting rid of the delusion that you are the body.
The knowledge that ‘I am’ is always there:
call it Atma, or Paramatma or whatever you like. One should get rid of the idea that ‘I am the body’. There is no need to search for that ‘I’ that is the self.
That Self is all-pervading.”

As an illustration of this, I give hereunder the words of Bhagavan in “Unnadhi Nalupadhi”:

Without the Self
where is time and where is space?
If we are the body,
we have to be bound by time and space.
Are we the body?
We are one and identical now, then and
always; here, there and everywhere.
So, we are existent,
without time and space.”

• Reality in Forty Verses, verse 16

_______Letters from Sri Ramanasramam.
Excerpt from Chapter (73)
THE ‘I’ IS THE MIND ITSELF

A CRITICAL QUESTION

When sharing the “What is being shared here is…”, the “No me, no you, no person…”, the “Open Secret and beyond…”, the “Beyond non-duality…”, the “Start with the Answer and stay there”(rjs) [referring to the same thing in all of the above], ‘I’ am keenly aware of why it is counter-intuitive to give ‘IT’ a label. But don’t we – or do we – oh golly I dunno! don’t we need to have some consistent way of identifying ‘IT’ in the literature?

In this treatment, I’m referring to the issue by the very temporary term IT. That’s not helpful as a solution for speakers and writers: I guess I just want it to be abundantly clear that the purity and absolute uniqueness of IT is fully appreciated and supported by “me”.

Why do “I” care so much about this labeling thing? Because I care so deeply and passionately about IT that I shudder inside and out when I see IT so unfairly misrepresented.

IT is not out there just to give other disciplines a rolling-the-eyes headache. IT isn’t a .001-second path: IT is always and already THERE (starting- and- staying- with- the- answer).

Try this…

An Infinite Field of Dependent Histories

What this means is: an apple (or any phenomena) is itself the sum total of its entire prior history. Further, any existing or contributing aspect of the apple’s history, such as the apple seed, the earth it grew in, the necessary nutrients, the water, the sunlight etc. etc. , are required, as well as also each of those contributing aspects or factors, will have their own prior histories as well.

This understanding reveals a vision which spans the entire universe as being an infinitely vast network of interdependent histories.

No “thing”, subjectively mental or objectively “material” can be isolated as though existing apart from its current total field of supporting dependencies and its prior developmental history of previously existing supporting and influencing relationships.

To think otherwise is itself the definition of “magical thinking”.

Now imagine that this “total field of interdependencies” includes the past, present and future as a single field or as a unified network of interconnected relationships or hierarchies. This further defines Einstein’s concept of an all inclusive “block universe” comprised of past, present and future as a fixed and unchanging 4D hologram.

So it doesn’t matter which or whatever philosophical or metaphysical or religious framework one wishes to superimpose upon this fixed field of Reality, it won’t alter what’s primordially there.

The future is never other than the extension of its history extended forward in time. An apple seed will never develop into a lemon. A lemon’s history will have to have something other than an apple seed as it’s origin. And so it is with ALL mental and material phenomena including the mind.

But the above description doesn’t include the permanent (timeless) Knowing Presence of Awareness. Knowing Awareness has no history, has no past, present or future. It’s outside of time, mind, thought, identity, self, form and event, yet is all pervading without dimension, like a borderless mirror in which reflections simply appear and are known. But better than the mirror analogy is one where Awareness is the unchanging empty space which hosts the Universal Hologram.

So whatever “spin” you want to put upon the nature and characteristics of the “reflections” as the appearing thoughts, mind, perceptions, identities, forms, bodies, objects, and energies; no utterly simple, elegant, complex or fanciful mental construct or paradigm will ever influence or impact the Knowing Awareness in which they harmlessly appear.

In Samkhya the interdependent “field” of past, present and future phenomena; mental and material, is called “prakriti”.

The empty Knowing Awareness is called Purusha or Jña in Samkhya.

Does Prakriti (the block universe) arise as the creative potential or expression of Knowing Awareness itself or are they always in a dualistic relationship?

Seeing how both pervade the other completely, to speak of “two” is incoherent. To see changing reflections as being “identical” to the unchanging mirror in which they appear, is equally incoherent.

It is only the historical or evolved form of prakriti known as the intellect (buddhi) which has concerns regarding duality or non-duality as being relevant philosophical positions.

The main task in Dzogchen is to differentiate Awareness from mind, thought, and the conceptualizing intellect. The egoic self identity is one of mind’s products. It is only the mind and intellect which “seem” to obscure rigpa.

Mind, thought and intellect are dependent prakriti, Awareness is neither prakriti nor is dependent.

That which is aware OF thoughts, images, perceptions, memories, logic, intellect, self and mind IS rigpa Awareness.

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posted by Jackson Peterson

Robin Sharing

As salt is in water, similarly, in the body, in combination with the vital breath, the consciousness appears. It is the consciousness that feels pain or pleasure, not the body or the vital breath. Once you know that you are not the body, all the concepts about pain and pleasure will disappear by themselves. Are you convinced that this is true?

To keep quiet and watch for yourself is called meditation. Remaining in what you have heard here is called spiritual practice.

Nisargadatta Maharaj
[Seeds of Consciousness]

Nisargadatta Maharaj

Nisargadatta Maharaj

The Incessant Absolute

Nisargadatta Maharaj (17 April 1897 – 8 September 1981), born Maruti Shivrampant Kambli, was an Indian guru of nondualism, belonging to the Inchagiri Sampradaya, a lineage of teachers from the Navnath Sampradaya and Lingayat Shaivism.

Ramesh S. Balsekar (25 May 1917 – 27 September 2009) was a disciple of the late Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, a renowned Advaita master. From early childhood, Balsekar was drawn to Advaita, a nondual teaching, particularly the teachings of Ramana Maharshi and Wei Wu Wei. 

All languages need to be accorded orderly and consistent concessions when transferring intended original meaning.

The World is the abode of desires and fears: you cannot find peace in it.

For peace you must go beyond the world. The root cause of the world is self-love. Because of it we seek pleasure and avoid pain.

Replace self-love by love of the Self and the picture changes.

nisargadatta maharaj
I Am That
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Temporary concession with language: since words have no inherent meaning nor power, “we” might try plugging into NM’s intended meaning by seeing “Self” as “we (westerners)” see “Absolute” or “Wholeness”, “All, Emptiness, Fullness, Perfection, God, Nirvana.”