Rupert Spira – 3 Suffering & Pain

Two ways to deal with suffering: Tantric and Vedantric
Go directly towards the feelings. Open yourself completely.
Opposite direction – away from feelings. Explore the “I”.
●IS SUFFERING REAL? YES&NO
Language clarification: regard the context. Suffering? Yes and No!
Investigate the “I” who suffers.
Looking at separate self, on whose behalf you’re thinking, feeling and acting. It’s like you’ve spent your life preparing jars to collect the water in a mirage! Suffering tells you to go and have a look at this mirage you’ve planned your life around.
The reason why we’re afraid that others will feel that we are bad, inadequate, imperfect, etc is because that’s how we feel about ourselves. Therefore we project that feeling onto everybody else.

ON THE TOPIC WITH FRANK JOHNSON:

TO WHAT EXTENT SHOULD WE FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM (PAIN) THAT WE WANT TO HEAL ?
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FJ:
“The problem (so many [have,] believers included) is trying to figure things out with the mind, trying to see what the mind cannot see (aka Religion).

We don’t want to let go, we want to add to our false sense of self.

This pattern, found in religious doctrine, only leaves you confused and empty.”

Frank Johnson

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“Ultimately, there are no mistakes. There are only temporary learning situations. It’s all taken you to this moment of presence and so it worked. If you look at your own suffering, you can see that it has its place and it has had its place. It has deepened you. You probably wouldn’t be here without it. You would be watching TV or something like that. So you can see that it has produced the deepening or it will produce the deepening in every life form.”

Eckhart Tolle, Freedom from the world (2004 lecture)

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Much healing of differing fractions resulted